When is lay opinion ‘necessary’?

Edit: I have been pointed to the decision of Connex Group Australia v Butt [2004] NSW 379 on this point. White J delivers a comprehensive judgment explaining his decision to allow lay opinion about the substance of conversation, where the words themselves could no longer be recalled.

I’ll write a full post on it when time permits.


Section 78 of the Evidence Act 2008 is a short provision. It reads,

78. Exception – lay opinions

The opinion rule does not apply to evidence of an opinion expressed by a person if-

(a) the opinion is based on what the person saw, heard or otherwise perceived about a matter or event; and

(b) evidence of the opinion is necessary to obtain an adequate account or understanding of the person’s perception of the matter or event.

‘Necessary’ in the context of (b) does not refer to absolute necessity: Jackson v Lithgow City Council [2010] NSWCA 136. Allsop P noted what had been written in Odgers Uniform Evidence Law (2008, 8th Ed, Lawbook Co, p 302) prior to the matter going to the High Court, but found that (unlike as is suggested there) no distinction needs to be drawn between an opinion which is only a ‘compendious description’ of what was perceived and an opinion which ‘actually draws an inference’ from what was perceived.

Basten JA (agreeing with Allsop P and Grove J) said [at 71],

71 When used in the Evidence Act, the term “necessary” connotes a higher hurdle to surmount than that which is ‘helpful’, ‘convenient’ or ‘desirable’, but does not require absolute necessity, in the sense of being the sole means of proof. Whether the exception is satisfied in a particular case may need to take account of the purpose or purposes underlying the general exclusion and the purpose of the exception.

The Court did not consider it significant to admissibility that the evidence would have been easily proved by other means (calling one of the officers) or that the foundation for the opinion was ambiguous. Basten JA outlined in some detail judicial authority concerning what ‘necessary’ may mean in a variety of curial contexts.

The facts in this case were quite unusual. They are set out in Jackson v Lithgow City Council [2008] NSWCA 312. The appellant, originally the plaintiff in a negligence action, was found lying unconscious in a concrete drain in a park in Lithgow shortly before 7 am on 18 July 2002 with serious injuries, cuts and abrasions. He had taken his dogs for a walk at about 3:30 that morning whilst intoxicated. He had no memory of the events in question or of events from the middle of the day before. No one saw the accident. There was no direct evidence as to the position of the appellant’s body in the drain when he was found. The appellant sued the local council having care and management of the park, alleging that he had fallen over the low, unfenced retaining wall of the drain and down approximately 1.5 metres on to the concrete drain.

The primary judge found in favour of the respondent council. The respondent did owe someone in the position of the appellant, walking in the park at night, a duty to exercise reasonable care for his or her safety and that such duty was breached by the respondent failing to take steps to avoid the risk of foreseeable injury to someone falling over the wall at night. However, the primary judge concluded that the appellant had not proved how he fell and came to be injured, the evidence not permitting a conclusion that the appellant had stumbled over the low wall and fallen down on to the concrete, or that the appellant had approached the drain when it was dark.

The Court of Appeal found in favour of the plaintiff, relying upon a ‘retrieval record’ (a note made by ambulance officers who attended upon the plaintiff and took him to hospital). Unusually, neither ambulance officer had been called as a witness, but their notes had been tendered without objection. It then became the subject of some discussion as to whether the notes were admitted under s 78 (lay opinion), s 69 (business records), or some exception to the hearsay rule.

The Lithgow City Council took the matter to the High Court because part of the evidence placed before the Court of Appeal had been incorrectly transcribed. When remitted to the Court of Appeal before the identically-composed Court the result was again judgment in favour of the plaintiff, and the findings expressed above.

4 thoughts on “When is lay opinion ‘necessary’?

  1. Jeremy Gans

    At [63], Basten JA discusses the question (recently covered on Quis Custodiet) of whether evidence of remembered conversations is covered by the opinion rule: \”It gives rise to a question, not addressed in argument, as to whether the exclusion of opinion evidence found in s 76 of the Evidence Act was intended to exclude the kinds of inference and impression which would have been admissible under the general law, so that their continued admissibility depends upon the operation of the exceptions… The recounting of a conversation commencing, “she then said words to the following effect …” would only be admissible once the proponent of the evidence demonstrated the impossibility (or perhaps the impracticability) of repeating word for word what had been said. It seems unlikely that the structure of the Evidence Act (stating a rule of general exclusion, followed by exceptions) was intended to have such an impractical effect.\”So, Basten agrees with you folks (that descriptions of conversations aren't opinions) and disagrees with me. Well, at least he agrees that my approach is 'impractical' (for some reason) and that the 'structure of the Evidence Act' was intended to be practical (for some reason.)

  2. If that's so Jeremy then at least you're in good company. The NSW Court of Appeal weren't gentle in their appraisal of Stephen Odgers' commentary on s 78, and I'm sure that he in turn will describe the Court's decision in his 10th edition (the 9th edition is already in print) as 'questionable'.

  3. Jeremy Gans

    Stephen Odgers, of course, will always have the last laugh (i.e. all the way to the bank.)I think this may not be the last word on s78 or indeed on this case. The NSWCCA's analysis of s78 is both split between two judgments and not entirely compelling. The HCA may well give the case another look, given that it's already signalled its doubts about relying on an obscure notebook notation to resolve this case.For what it's worth, I'm dubious too. What's the point of the rules of evidence if this sort of tenuous evidence can become determinative in trial? Alas, the HCA itself started the trend, by deeming a thumb-sized stick-figure diagram to be 'incontrovertible evidence' in Fox v Percy.

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